Make Logos 4 and 5 avalible to individuals on Ubuntu and other Linux based operating systems.
Make Logos 4 and 5 avalible to individuals on Ubuntu and other Linux based operating systems
We will not be developing a desktop/offline application for Linux.
https://app.logos.com continues to improve and will be our solution for any platform that supports a web browser.
The browser option is nice when good internet is available. It's a bit bloated and slow though, plus it's simply not the same.
Windows and iOS have both been caught adding degradation code to their software in order to improve sales. As has been mentioned, they add huge costs to operate, as well as are far more susceptible to viruses and hacking.
At least pave the way for open source development of a solution.
A two pronged system vaguely reminiscent of RedHat's setup. You would have your in-house proprietary library and extended features (all purchasable items like you have already), and then they would plug into an open sourced GUI that had only basic features (like your Core Engine only has basic features). You could maintain executive control over the project, but by making the core/GUI available to the vast range of multi-platform programmers you would in essence be gaining thousands of hours of free labor. The difference here though, is that everyone benefits.
Yeah, I know, but I am preparing to dump Windows for the very first time and go with Linux. I want to get out ahead of the eventual switch that Windows is going to make to subscription. I am already paying for enough subscription based things in my life and simply cannot afford anymore.
Will be interesting to see how many folks jump to Linux as Windows goes to subscription OS.
Brian Russell commented
I also would prefer to be able to run Verbum/Logos on Linex.
I am ditching using Logos because it only runs on Windows. Logos is a great tool but I does not give the option of choosing the OS in my machine. I would rather buy a new version of Logos than a new version of MS-Windows. Since Logos is forcing me to buy MS-Windows I quit Logos.
How about just making it available so that the Linux developers can do it themselves? That's kinda' how Linux works, ya know.
Thomas Zimmermann commented
I hope this decision will be reconsidered someday! The money this would free would most likely be spend on logos.com (at least for me.)
Keith Parker commented
"We will not be developing a desktop/offline application for Linux.
https://app.logos.com continues to improve and will be our solution for any platform that supports a web browser."
Which is ONLY available by paid subscription, and ONLY available while online. This is not opening up your library (which must be purchased) to the largest audience possible.
Here are two better options that could be used in a future version of LOGOS:
1. AVOID frameworks that are NOT multi-platform (ie: using Internet Explorer components [report display engine]). Instead, use available multi-platform options like Firefox or Chromium.
2. A two pronged system vaguely reminiscent of RedHat's setup. You would have your in-house proprietary library and extended features (all purchasable items like you have already), and then they would plug into an open sourced GUI that had only basic features (like your Core Engine only has basic features). You could maintain executive control over the project, but by making the core/GUI available to the vast range of multi-platform programmers you would in essence be gaining thousands of hours of free labor. The difference here though, is that everyone benefits.
Joshua Lytle commented
So now I have to spend more money to access Logos from my Linux browser??? Or buy a new computer just to have enough power to run Linux and a VM at the same time and buy a copy of Windows?? I am a one income family my I am blessed to have my wife home, so every dollar counts. Logos you have disappointed me greatly.
That's an unfortunate decision. As I mentioned below, I work in Bible translation. I would switch to Linux yesterday for the sake of my national translation colleagues who just cannot afford a legal copy of Windows (ergo, a Windows 'virtual machine' is not an option either)... Linux is free, which solves a few ethical and social problems. Accessing Logos online is /not/ an option where we work (very 'off grid'). Again, an unfortunate decision... :-(
This is why I prefer books and regret spending so much on Logos software. While software seems to give you convenience, you end up in being handcuffed. A book lasts for decades, with software, conditions change, you give up your privacy, etc.
The president of Logos (former Microsoft guy) says they cannot afford to develop for another platform. OK, so then open your sources so that the community can do the work instead. It is the Christian thing to do. Allow Christians to be freed from the bondage of digital handcuffs imposed by Microsoft and others that lust for filthy lucre.
Dominik Wagner commented
please make Logos 6 offline available on Linux based operating systems.
please make Logos 4 and 5 avalible to individuals on Ubuntu and other Linux based operating systems.
John Goodman commented
Could this become possible if you try porting from the Mac code using GNUstep.org rather than from the Windows code and focusing on the lack of WPF. All discussions about this come down to a lack of WPF on linux. Wine will never be a solution for us. We need code compiled for linux and deployed using appimage so that it will work on all major distros.
MJ Smith commented
This request needs updated to Logos 6. I suspect a more full-feature web application is more likely to be implemented than this request per se.
John Goodman commented
If I was able to run Logos desktop app on Linux then I'd be using a home built PC costing me £200 instead of a mac costing £2000. If I had £1800 spare I'd probably spend it at Logos.com
@ Phil Gons (Faithlife) Sorry, but a web-based solution will not meet my needs. Where I work doing Bible Translation the internet is slow and expensive... Offline support is essential, to the point that I turn Logos's internet access OFF whenever I'm there. 'Syncronised scrolling' with other translation programs is also essential. I'm not sure a web-based solution would do that...? An added benefit of a Linux version is that I could encourage others to use legal software rather than the pirated versions so ubiquitous in some places in the world. Imagine--you could help with that! :-)
Phil Gons (Faithlife) commented
Our solution for Linux users will likely be our web app at app.logos.com. If it's full-featured enough, will this meet your needs? Or is offline support a concern?
Adam York commented
I have run Ubuntu as my primary desktop for years. Bibleworks works fine for me under WINE, but, as of yet, I have not been able to get Logos running under WINE. I would love to use Logos under WINE - If not under wine, then, yes, a native port. However, if Logos could just spend a little effort (like Bibleworks did) making sure that BW can run under WINE, that might be a lot quicker and easier of a development path. Would love to use Logos under Linux natively. Running in a VM is very slow and cumbersome.