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Focus on tablet and touchscreen features

Better scrolling and program control with touchscreen gestures. Especially in reading mode the interface is difficult to use with a touchscreen. I want to be able to use Logos like my e-reader.

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  • Scott Dillon commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Add features to allow us to use our devices to teach "a la" Piper's Look at the Book mode.

  • Nick Hall commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    The most immediately annoying lack of touch compatibility for me is on the home-screen. I always want to be able to scroll through the “articles” with my finger.

  • Mike Windle commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I would love to see this coming into the Canvas tool as well. I'd love to be able to use my active stylus effectively as well.

  • Phil Theis commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Yes, absolutely, we need touchscreen features. They are basic and should be present in a first class piece of software.

    It can't take much, every other program I use on my touchscreen works great.

  • JP commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    It was a big unpleasant surprise, when Logos 8 launched, to find out the update left out the touch screen/hand writing features completely and yet again.This is 2019 now, and while Logos is improving in other areas, it's falling significantly behind on the current trend. All the people I know using either tablet or tablet PC utilize hand writing feature in their note taking on their digital resources, and they find it extremely intuitive, enjoyable, and productive. The developers just don't seem to be interested in keeping up with how the world is evolving.

  • Joon Hui commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I have been a Logos user since version 4 and used it with my Mac. I just bought a Surface Pro hoping I can utilize and optimize my experience using Logos to read, research, and write. I cannot get any gesture going with my Surface Pro. Hope someone will fix this.

  • Joshua Coady commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Started with v4, now on v8 and I use logos almost exclusively on my surface pro. The handwriting panel used to be able to be used to write in a variety of text fields, but it no longer works for notes and some other places (and hasnt worked for a year or 2). I was really hoping that v8 would fix this, but just upgraded and it still doesnt work. I also have some difficulty doing things like resizing windows (like the library list) because the touch target is so small you have to be very precise about where you hit it. Same deal with scrolling. Also, the extra symbols on the keyboard dont work (anything that isnt on a regular keyboard).

  • Robert commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Playing around with it for about an hour, I found these very basic, presumably easy to fix quirks/bugs.
    - Handwriting input panel doesn't work in notes (but does in prayer lists)
    - Dragging does not select text in prayer lists (but does in notes)
    - In home screen, dragging selects rather than scrolls
    - In a Bible, dragging scrolls rather than selecting texts
    - In Program Settings, dragging neither scrolls nor selects texts, and if you drag the slider bar, the page scrolls in reverse of how it scrolls if you grab the same slider bar with the mouse! You really have to try this one to believe it.

    A word to the developers - with touch, dragging up/down should scroll, whereas dragging left/right should select text. That works flawlessly in TheWord Bible software.

  • Robert commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I am also curious to know what improvements have been done on Logos 8, since there is no Logos 8 demo version.

  • William Dupps commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Has anyone read of any touch-related improvements in Verbum/Logos 8? I would be very hesitant to upgrade if touch has still been left out of the development pathway. Anyone from Logos care to inform the group on this?

  • Robert commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I just demo'ed Logos 7 on my Surface Pro 4.

    I was astounded to find that I could not add a user note using the Windows Handwriting Panel. The handwriting panel is built into Windows and works exactly like a keyboard. It works on every single application I have ever used... except Logos. I believe this to be more of a bug than an improvement - Logos should not even care whether the letters came from a physical keyboard or the handwriting panel. Windows did all the work, and something in Logos is blocking it!

    But, as mentioned, several other things make for a very bad touch experience. Scrolling by touch is sometimes laggy, sometimes aggressive, and sometimes seemingly nonexistent. Also, I can barely open a resource in touch. I can't just click on it - I have to click and hold to get the right click menu. Half the time I don't even get a right click menu - I just get information about the book. Many things aren't enabled to treat a touch as a click. So I tap on a window (x) to close it, but it doesn't register as a click. Also, the behavior seems to vary between different parts of Logos.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I'm using Logos 7 and still having trouble using it with my Surface Go device as a tablet. For example, scrolling through the resource library is awkward using touch (specifically with keyboard detached in portrait mode).

    Touch mode is not only about taking notes using a pen (as noted in another post), but more importantly all UI controls must accommodate touch UX -- meaning the software cannot always rely on the scrollbar to scroll contents.

    This is an essential feature and is a blocker for making a purchase.

  • Joseph commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I concur wit the need for Logos 8 to have better WIndows 10 compatibility, specifically touch screen features. A simple drop down menu of Bible books, chapters and verses like in most tablet and phone apps would be a good start. Note taking with a pen would be awesome. I take most of my sermon notes with Onenote on my Surface Pro 3. I use another Bible program just so I can touch to switch t verse as the Preacher moves through the Bible.

  • Roger commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Logos needs to incorporate windows pen their note taking system is just plain awful

  • Steve commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I add my support for better tablet/touchscreen support.

    my prayer is Logos Support is touched too.

    May God bless them with the means.

  • Brian Haddock commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Just bought a Windows 10 Samsung tablet and found that Logos works horribly on a Windows touchscreen device. Highlighting text is very difficult as are all other functions that require traditional "clicking". And no dark mode for reading?

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    Just bought a Surface Pro since my IPAD did not have all the LOGOS features and now I learn that you still cannot use touchscreens. Please respond to the threads and provide feedback on any development. Thanks for providing a valuable tool like LOGOS, now please help us use it.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

    I wholeheartedly agree with the comments about touch support for Windows 10 tablets and PCs, such as the Surface Pro or Surface Book. I run Logos on a Surface Pro 4, and it's very frustrating that most of the UI doesn't work properly with touch. Windows 10 has been out for over 2 years now, and with every update, I lament the lack of touch support.

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